A feeling of remoteness is something that Barry will appreciate from being the other side of a certain long appallingly grotty crawl through a backfilled passage.
And there has to be something spooky about finding his watch in there this Sunday and yet I had been through several times since I took him through there the first time.

And really spooky is the way its survived being inadvertently put through my washing machine this morning.

Joking aside I have always thought that when people see spirits they come out of a bottle.

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A feeling of remoteness is something that Barry will appreciate from being the other side of a certain long appallingly grotty crawl through a backfilled passage.
And there has to be something spooky about finding his watch in there this Sunday and yet I had been through several times since I took him through there the first time.

And really spooky is the way its survived being inadvertently put through my washing machine this morning.

Joking aside I have always thought that when people see spirits they come out of a bottle.

it was well worth it,

yep its very spooky you finding my watch as i haven't worn one since the 70s,

now who called ceredigions initiative "spirit of the miners"? surly thats a deception on behalf of those involved to mislead the public into thinking there are spirits of the miners knocking about,

funny how fag smoke is associated with spirits appearing underground i distinctly remember roy saying in the above belly crawl, "i can smell cigarette smoke" i had to confess it was me who just sparked up, 😮 you didn't find my elixir lighter there did you;D

:lol::lol::lol:

So who was it who told me that they lost their watch in there?
And I dont drink alcohol
:o

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:lol::lol::lol:

So who was it who told me that they lost their watch in there?
And I dont drink alcohol
:o

i dont know im not a psychic:lol:

a guess, a apparition ? :lol:

a side of mining history i dont see discussed much, is legends,and spirits, german mining history is full of stories of spirits guiding the miners to the load!, as late as the 18th cent cardigan miners were reported to follow the sounds of the "knockers" a good spirit who the miners could hear tapping, they followed the tapping,

vibes, feelings, are definitely a very real sensation for lots of people, hair on the back of your neck raising, auto self preservation kicking in ? there are certainly places under sod and above were this happens,

Agricola also mentions the little guys - Kobal - in De Re Metallica in the 16th century.
The knockers were alive and well in South Crofty right up to when it closed in 1998, and woe betide anyone that pooh poohed them.

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Can't say that I have experienced a genuine (I use the word loosely here) paranormal experience either underground or above.

I have had uneasy feelings though, most memorably about 20 years ago when Alex & I climbed down Greenside stopes ladderway from Glencoynedale. We'd already done it before and were really looking forward to the trip, but something was just not right that day. We did hear far-off rumbling noises at one point, which is never a great thing, and when a VCR-sized rock spalled off the wall and clobbered Alex on the shoulder, we decided that we really weren't wanted there that day, and made a tactical retreat.

The human brain is (for most people anyway) a thing of complexity, and surely picks up subtle cues that we're not consciously aware of, such as infrasound and low-frequency vibrations. The conscious bit then goes through its checklist, eliminating every logical possibility, and what's left is Ghosts!

Either way it serves us well, compelling us to remove ourselves from the unknown danger.

MARK

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As Chris adeptly pointed out we have visited this area, before, I looked for the posting but could not find it.
I am still, and probably, always will be a sceptic.
However, I certainly would always be wary of these places which seem to 'project' bad feelings.
Jessie Fisher, or Rogerly mine, told me off an instance that occurred to him and his mining partner, last year, which illustrates this point.
These American miners, are not mean with their timbering!
Last season, about 3 months, they spent close on £10k on timber! Yet they were in a small passage, which was difficult to prop, and the roof looked pretty solid.
They decided it was time to go for lunch, and when they came back, several large pieces of the roof had come down, right on top of where they had been before eating!
You cannot be to careful underground!

a side of mining history i dont see discussed much, is legends,and spirits, german mining history is full of stories of spirits guiding the miners to the load!, as late as the 18th cent cardigan miners were reported to follow the sounds of the "knockers" a good spirit who the miners could hear tapping, they followed the tapping,

vibes, feelings, are definitely a very real sensation for lots of people, hair on the back of your neck raising, auto self preservation kicking in ? there are certainly places under sod and above were this happens,

Agricola also mentions the little guys - Kobal - in De Re Metallica in the 16th century.
The knockers were alive and well in South Crofty right up to when it closed in 1998, and woe betide anyone that pooh poohed them.

I a fascinating read, good to know the cornish still held on to the old beliefs

As Chris adeptly pointed out we have visited this area, before, I looked for the posting but could not find it.
I am still, and probably, always will be a sceptic.
However, I certainly would always be wary of these places which seem to 'project' bad feelings.
Jessie Fisher, or Rogerly mine, told me off an instance that occurred to him and his mining partner, last year, which illustrates this point.
These American miners, are not mean with their timbering!
Last season, about 3 months, they spent close on £10k on timber! Yet they were in a small passage, which was difficult to prop, and the roof looked pretty solid.
They decided it was time to go for lunch, and when they came back, several large pieces of the roof had come down, right on top of where they had been before eating!
You cannot be to careful underground!

and there be the lesson i believe, whether instinct,spirit ghost or intuition, if some thing is telling you some thing take head there are no second chances underground

Good Point, Odin has given me a rough time on many occasions ----

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